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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Oct 18, 2008 12:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Nothing but insults and paranoid douchebaggery

Fenario--

I never did understand why NC chooses to spew his paranoia about a leftist conspiracy to take away his freedom on a Grateful Dead forum (seems a little like logging on to a Battlestar Galactica forum to rant about fixing potholes in the City where you live), but because I am a liberal, I defend his right to say whatever the hell he wants.

Every time he does it undercuts his own argument about liberals being oppressive. That's the whole point of being liberal--you may disagree with a person's point of view, but you defend like hell his right to say it.

The irony is that the very right wing politics he defends are practiced by the same assholes who put protestors into "designated protest pens" during conventions and ignore FISA laws to listen in on private Americans' conversations, and subvert free speech by looking for books to ban based on content they find objectionable (I'm looking at you, Governor of Alaska).

I get that you're offended by his inexplicable statements that "democracy is going to disappear" once Obama is elected--as if 8 years of Bush/Cheney hasn't done more to erode democracy than any American administration in the past 100 years (Habeas Corpus? Who needs THAT?), but don't try to shut yourself or him up. It's his right as an American and it's only annoying that he chooses to place it here--shutting him up or off would only give him fodder for his anti-liberal paranoia.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Oct 20, 2008 2:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Nothing but insults and paranoid douchebaggery

Although I appreciate your position on allowing everyone their own opinion, I have to fault you for calling ot paranoid. It is quite obvious we are headed towards socialism with the ioncompetence of both parties. While you may be an advocate of free speech, this guy was not:

http://passionateamerica.blogspot.com/2004/10/liberal-manifesto-1963-communist-goals.html

Damn, I ruined my trivia question in my forum, where I was going to stay until I saw these posts...

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Poster: spacedface Date: Oct 18, 2008 2:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Nothing but insults and paranoid douchebaggery

>>>Every time he does it undercuts his own argument about liberals being oppressive. That's the whole point of being liberal--you may disagree with a person's point of view, but you defend like hell his right to say it.>>>

It's also odd because I think the reason why the Grateful Dead became very popular in reaction against the Reagan right wing.

Attendance was already up before Jerry's coma and "we will survive" -- which hit a nerve in a time when Reagan was gambling or bluffing a nukyahler war.

Really, you could survey the landscape of America and the GD stood out as one of the main alternatives to what Amercia has become. It was like a choice between life and death as a way, and still is.

Or it could I was listening to this Throwing Stones (and the sudden transition to Black Peter) surfing:
http://www.archive.org/details/gd1986-04-22.sbd-pcm.miller.34768.flac16

I think Jerry's solo is Throwing Stones is really hopeful.


This post was modified by spacedface on 2008-10-18 21:16:55

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Oct 19, 2008 7:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Nothing but insults and paranoid douchebaggery

Nice verson--thanks for the link!


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